So you think chating men and the sound of the trumpets broke down walls of a city

They may have historically correct background but most don't.


So we have different values that we rank in our head like in this case for example
1. respect the authortities
2. don't kill people
This what you meant?


So you could do anything to survive?
Would you kill your family to survive?

Taking someone down in the war is something that people try to make as far from killing an individual as possible but in the end it is not.
If compare your reaction if a general would order you to "destroy an enemy base" Or to "Go and murder every living human being who still is equal to you and has a family hopes and dreams who fights for his country just as you do"
Presentation matters.


Is it not possible for them to simply have different morale?

Yes


Yes, but this doesn't work for everyone. For example the Chinese, they have this pride when it comes to their family and their country. Had something to do with some words by Confucius, that actually made some sense.


No, just watch:


No, killing your own family is unnatural, because the preservation of your own family comes first when there's no thinking time. I once read this story about two parents and their child in a train, and the train derailed and landed in the water. The first reaction of these people was getting the child out, thus letting their offspring survive but themselves going to die.


Killing in a war IS different from individual killing, or better, murder. The opponent will also try to kill you, and besides, you're allowed to do so by your own country.


No. Morale is built up in the very early stages of life, and can't be totally changed later.

Well that is called superstition.
Ifthe walls were made of stone it is a fact that sound level caused by horns and mens voices can not break walls.


Yes, but this doesn't work for everyone. For example the Chinese, they have this pride when it comes to their family and their country. Had something to do with some words by Confucius, that actually made some sense.
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Well sure pride is a lot to them but talk about the japanese.
Finland is high on suicide statistics because of depression during the darkest times of the winter but japan is even higer just because of family pride.

So when you said that that doesn't work for chinese were you trying to say people have individual or cultural differences on the order those values come in?


No, just watch:


No, killing your own family is unnatural, because the preservation of your own family comes first when there's no thinking time. I once read this story about two parents and their child in a train, and the train derailed and landed in the water. The first reaction of these people was getting the child out, thus letting their offspring survive but themselves going to die.
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So survival of the whole race comes first?


Killing in a war IS different from individual killing, or better, murder. The opponent will also try to kill you, and besides, you're allowed to do so by your own country.
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So if I get into a gang fight I can kill because I am in danger of getting killed otherwise and because my gang allows me to? if you refer to law then if you can always kill when law says you can then our morale is based on law and blind following of it. Then we will just come to the question: If law is the only thing saying what is right then what is it based on and how can we know it is right or do laws and morale really matter.


No. Morale is built up in the very early stages of life, and can't be totally changed later.[/quote]
Well in a way you are right. There was a psychologist who had a theory of morale and he thought the highest levels could only be reached during your youth. But this would mean one can't change his/her ways of life.

I think You can always fit in to a new environment with new rules and customs.

Oh and just that everyone understands what we were talking about the moustasche of Friedrich Nietzsche:

If you kill your family to survive, that shows that you have no brain... You have to put the others over than you, you have to care for the other more than you to survive, no to kill them...

It is not about brains.
Psychopats have brains.

So like I asked Andreas: do you think that our morale is based on leeping our race from being extinct?

I didn't understand what exactly you mean..

No. First of all, there's no such thing as survival of a race built in humans, it's more a thing that parents have to make their offspring survive.
Second, this is not any part of the morale.

So you don't think survival instinct has anything to do with morale?
We are back to square one.
What is it based on then?

Would you be so kind too as to answer my questions from the previous page?