As we were talking on the other topic we said about the other life...

What do you think?? Is there another life??

My vote goes for YES

I repeat, YES!

And yes, our dear -Mayhem- seems pretty sceptical about anything... So I wonder what will he say here... probably nothing...

Lets just say I am not buying anything that others would like to have me believe just for them.

Oh and being sceptical is just the perfect way of avoiding bad choices. Martin Heidegger did say that if we have just one life we should live our own lives not the lives of others.

Second of all if this is an opinnion poll only there ain't much sense in voting.
I think even if it might be hard we should try to back up our points.

Like I already said: Why to presume something we can't know?
Do you see how you just believe in things that you would wish to be true?

A Finnish poet (agnostic BTW) said that "God will exist wheter you believe in him or not".
And you can see his point. Why worry why believe?

There cannot just be an end. Something I think there is

Yes. Just yes.

Exactly.


And the perfect way to avoid letting your imagination take you somewhere else, to avoid dreaming and being creative, I would say! You know, I'm writing novels and so in my free time (nothing that I want to become famous, more like something for my own soul ), and I'd never write anything if I don't let my imagination go somewhere beyond some borders of the world we definitely KNOW. Allright, there's another thing, I'm writing about fantasy and such things, but still I have a firm border between that and real life... But I think that anyone should let himself "be free" at least a little, even in real life.

Ooh, you have to argue immediatelly. No one WANTED YOU to believe in something. That actuarlly is my point: to believe in anything you like. But don't go into another end: you also don't have to throw away anything we say without taking a closer look at it! Did I say that you have to believe in other life? I think not. I said that I wander what will you say, although I kinda knew you won't say anything...

Exactly. I repeat, no one wanted you to believe in something. But you have to live that "your life" in some kind of way!!! And also you should let US live OUR lives the way we want and not always telling us how your opinnions are the best and everyone should think on that way (no offence).

People believed in something since there is mankind. Those were different kinds of Gods and such things, but there was SOMETHING always. I think that our existence depends on our beliefs, yeah, that's right, in things we wish to be true. If we don't believe in anything, just try to imagine what would happen: we would come to the simple question: why do we live when everyone shall die once? and with that kind of thinking, we wouldn't want our lives at all, we'd all die once because we wouldn't waste our time on raising the children, and mankind would be gone. Any clearer now why there are any beliefs?

That poet is absolutely right. Because WE DON'T KNOW, it doesn't mean WE SHOULDN'T BELIEVE. Believe because beliefs give us strenght to go on, either they're true or they're not. We can hope there's something and we'll reach for it. If we don't we won't have the desire to go on... And maybe we were wrong all the time? Now you see MY point.

But if we want to discuss this we should either get back to the religions topic or make another one on... this... I'd make it, but I'm not quite sure what we were talking about right now and how should I name that topic. Beliefs, I guess... but that's religion again.

You don't know if there is a GOD... But your vote is NO, so you presume something that you can't know!

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Hey that has nothing to do with being sceptical.
I make art I read fantasy novels just as much as you do, I write a lot of reviews and make interviews and what is the difference?
I know the borders of this dreamworld. Things that are just a product of my imagination should not affect my life. Letting myself free? So I presume you don't think I do?
I am nt really as erious as many of you take me for. Sure I can be however and ofetn I am.


Actually no. I really hesitatted to make that post since I did not want to start arguing about it just to add my own view on things.


Did I say that you are forcing your opinnions on me?
I hate be be this arguative but I did not blame any of you for anything. That was a lot more a bout me and my scepticalism.


Saying WHY I believe in something does not make me think I have a better reason than anyone else. I am leaving that to decide for every one of you.


Yes and a bit more as well. From psychological point of view man creates god to balance out their own limitations. If I can't control the weather and I am afraid of a thunderstorm the best way out is just to think there is a mightybeing controlling that storm and if I ask him to spare me maybe he will.


Well if that is so isn't our beliefs just keeping our true nature back?



So faith is our only reason to live? The only reason what makes us keep going?
And if the mankind would be gone: would that really be bad?
If every living human being on earth makes that decicion why would it be wrong? How could you possibly think in a situation where no one is able to critisize the thought and it can still be wrong?


Yeah I do see your point and I am just saying things that I see differently (I am by no means trying to offend you or your points)
Friedrich Nietzsche would have a word or two right now. He thought the New Testament is popular because it gives hope (false hope) for everyone. If you read it you think oh nice I will be saved even if I am sick and poor and then he does nothing about his problems and dies as sick and poor. There is word of hope for each class of society separately.

But do we need to believe in things if have no problems that we could not deal with?
Why are the nordic countries the most Secularized area in the world?



Hey call that down!
I did not vote and my vote is I don't know!