Why?



Well we don't know is there a beginning or an end but our logic just gives us the idea that it has to be that way.
Theres no other explanation? There are hundreds of theories both religional and scientifical.
And do we really choose between good and bad paths? if so you wuld also say there is only one true morale. So then you also say other religions and cultures may be wrong in their morales just as yours.
And then we come to what good and evil really are? Why does god know it? Is our morale based on the fact thatif god is bigger and stronger and he can punish us the right thing to do is what he says. That is the morale thinking of a child (at least some psychological theories think that way.)


isn't this another proof that people take just what they are given.
Bible may ben important cultural book but it is also full of superstition pure crap and lies and none of you follow it's commands word by word since it is not the source of our morale.
There are thousands of holy books out there and there are other explanations out there. Each religion and mythology has it's own. Scandinavian people used to belive that people were created from the sweat of giants and they had just as much proofs as christians do.


You don't have the proofs greeks had. They had minotaurs centaurs satyrs and mythical heroes blessed by olympian gods. How is that different. They even knew the exact location of their gods.
Other religions have just as much proofs. Buddha for example was enlightened and saw beyond this world is that not a proof? For me it is not any more of a proof than christian ones.

The Holy books, are the History of our religion. They don't say to you how to live and they don't explain the supernatural things that you can't explain... Is your choice how to live... This is the difference of christian religion from the others... In my religion, none obligate you to do something... It's your choice....



Because you have started this, and surely I will say a different opinion than yours....

The God never punish someone.... He just judge him by his actions... And if you don't know something, DON'T TALK.. Just say your opinion and nothing else more....

Thats not the way he introduces himslef in the old testament you know.
Job (or whatever he is called in english) was pretty much tortured by god accoring to bible.

I just watched a great document about dreams. Do you even know what happens during your dreams?
It is more of a simulator.

I have seen many people in my dreams but that doesn't make me belive my dreams had a meaning.

Could someone summarize the points made in this topic? I'm not in the mood of reading a novel.

No, the greek mythology is only a MYTH... I am greek!! And I know better than you! The Gods of Mythology (Zeus, Ira, Apollon and more..) are only a MYTH...

The most times, the dreams are not true... But sometimes, maybe they are a kind of warning... And sometimes they are absolutely real!

That shows, that you read a wrong bible.... The God is not a PUNISHER... But a GOOD POWERFULL FORCE, who helps and judge absolutly right and without evil....

It was from omonoia 1948, and I said I don't really agree.


God makes us praying for his help to be sure we still believe in his powers. Why would HE help someone who doesn't believe in him? I wouldn't help my enemy.


Hehe... I see that you haven't read the Bible and haven't much knowing about the religion. At first, God DID make a perfect world. First humans were Adam and Eva. They were immortal, they were practically living in Heaven. And they were allowed to do anything except to eat from one tree. God used that to see if they really believe in him. But once, the devil shaped like snake came and told Eva that God is cheating them, and that they'll become Gods themselves if they eat an apple from that tree. Eva trusted him. They took an apple. God saw that they trust the devil more than him and banished them from heaven. They became mortal, they learned what pain is. Because of that first sin. So, the world was supposed to be perfect, but human kind wasn't strong enough to stick to what they believed in.


I would like you to answer one single question... Where did that mass come from? Let's forget the Christians' theory for a moment-the one where the God created the world in seven days. Let's take some of you scientific theories. Everything that exists right now became from SOMETHING. Now, from what did that something come from? For example, the big bang theory. Who made that what banged than?


Of course they are very different, that's why there are more than one religion and more than one opinion about the beginning of everything! But there's got to be SOMETHING... Look, our brain controls our every move and our every thought. But since the brain is also just one material thing, just like this computer I'm sitting in front of, there's got to be SOMETHING that controls that brain! And that something we can't see. So it certainly isn't anything material. This is the biggest reason why I believe in God. Because something must control everything and something must've created everything.


But than what do we know that ISN'T?


I think I'm quite calm. Neither do I want this to be a fight. And you're not an annoying idiot speaking rubbish, I enjoy this: saying my theories and listening to yours, considering and comparing those two!


Because we were all supposed to have a perfect life, but the same WE ruined that first idea.