Yes that is pretty good.
It means I think we have to protect the environment in order to survive ourselves and by utilitarist means (a way of moral choice making)



Thats because I don't. No one has. This is morale philosophy.


That's because I know almost any possible critique for almost any point of view on these matters. Even for the ones I support.

I will have to go now but I will be back to finish my post.

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Are you really sure? Then give me a list of these foundations and we will see.


E:2 coming up..


So if we do we don't need laws since we all know what is right and what is wrong and we know that wehave to be good and not bad.
So where are the problems coming from?
That would be either intuitionism or rationalism (not sure about the spelling)
Th problem of Rationalism (Rationalism: Moral is built in human mind and we can know what is right by reason) is that we don't know what is good.
Intuitionisms problem would be moral arguments (Intuitionism: Insight gives us the answer) It is perfectly possible for two people to believe they are right and intuitionisms idea of morale doesn't give any way to settle the argument on what is right and what is wrong.


So you don't think how you raise a child or what kind of thoughts you share with him/her have any impact on his/her morale?


Well maybe inside europe but as soon as you march into middle-east or Africa you can see differences. The question is are we any better than they are? Is our moral better?


Well that is on environment matters only adn as I said I do most of my decisions based on Kants theories and morale.

And you going for C? You could kill your relatives? Think of it you family on the tracks and the other option just some unknown people to you. Could you really kill you family for them?

I meant to say B instead of C... I was in a rush when I was writing this down, I really didn't know what I'm writing at all... Sry, B.

So we're coming to the question why do you want me to answer these questions at all... Since no one knows.

If that's it, than we could say I'm Antropocentric Utilitarist. But now let me ask you something: Why do you want to survive and what's the reason to live in your opinion? Because somewhere in some other topic you wrote that even if the whole mankind is gone, it wouldn't be so bad...

You know the critiques? So you're learning the critiques of other people, probably some great philosophers or something, and you don't have your own?

There's no list of foundations. I didn't specify any of them, they're not something you can count and say. I can only give you the list of laws. These "foundations" I'm talking about are something we have inside.. I gave just an example. Yes, I am sure... You give me an example of an exception in this what I wrote: "No one is happy because of the death of his relative, and no one is sad because of reaching some important goal in his life"!

If there was no law, the man would also know that it is bad to kill other man. But he will do it because of ANGER in him, and there would be no punishment that could stop him. But he'd still certainly know that's bad. And his reason would most probably be revenge or something. Yes, we do KNOW at least for most of the things, but we need law just to prevent such things from being done.

But the intuition of different people shouldn't really be much different, if you see what I mean. And intuition is what I'm talking about when I say that we know what's good and what's bad, I just didn't use the word...

Of course it does! I didn't say it's ONLY God, but God is probably the one who "started it all".

There's no better and worse... Just different... But I still don't know those differences so I can't discuss that.

I wonder.... -Mayhem-, if you don't mind that I'm asking, how old are you? I'd like to know with who am I discussing this...

Yeah. It is perfectly normal bt also very egoistic thinking to spare the people close to you. Jeremy Bentham would simply go for most lives saved so he as the first utilitarist would kill his own family to save some other people. Well I don't expect he could or that any one fo us could.

Well knowing things is another philosophical problem: What is knowledge?
But thinking about these things has many uses to it. And creating a perfect theory is something we can work towards in all forms of science.

I didn't say I thought like that but I just raised a question: Why do we have to live? Why do we have to survive?
I want to survive because I enjoy life. More about this on discussion about suicide.


I do. There is so much critique out there. I just know the major weakpoints and a lot of things I have said are perfectly my own and all of it is something I have used. reading the writings of philosophers of past is like arguing with them in person.


I will resume writing soon. ( I will be back don't touch anything!)
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What if this relative of yours is someone who hated you and who did bad things to you? In the middle-ages people were really happy if one of their children who did not act as people should (critisized the church for example) died. In japan for a long time and in some families even nowadays suicide is the only way to restore the family honor if you have done something bad.
This is a matter of our relation with death only.

But basically you have the core thought that Thomas Aquinas had too. He thought every human being knows that we must do what is right and avoid what is bad. We just don't always know what is good and what is bad and that is also the problem.



So our emotions are the source of all evil? We just can't control ourselves? That would be questioning free will of humans (and that is not wrong and is actually quite common among psychologists)


It is perfectly possible for two people to have different intuitions. For example about gay marriage. A catholic priest can have a strong intuition against it and some equality guy can have a strong intuition for it.


So even morale that is different from ours is from god? Then why is it different?
If even a part of our morale is changed by man then how do we know the one we trust in is the right one?


Well I understand how you see this but these two thoughts of yours contradict each other (the right morale and culture differences)


Well what do you think?
How old do I seem to you?
I can hint that I am younger than what I usually seem to be but I am also older than one could think.

Yes.

Is it really so much different?

I really can't say. I know that you study, and so that makes me think you're around 20 maybe... A little more perhaps... I don't know. That is why I asked you that.

Yes it is.
We may remember cannibalism, human sacrifice and such nice things from cultures far away throughout the ages.
But even more recently we have pedophilia and sexism in middle-east we have obligatory mutialtion of womens outer sex organs that is just a painful tradition. We have the north-koreans starving their brainwashed population and we have the chinese who refuse to take critic (death sentences and censorship)

So if these things happen in your country all the time then it could be similar with yours but at least in here we have things going nicely.


Well that is quite close. Lets just say I am a bit younger than Andreas.

Oh. In fact, I knew this. I just... Forgot about it, kinda. Very well then.


around... 18, 19?