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So like I asked Andreas: do you think that our morale is based on leeping our race from being extinct?

No. First of all, there's no such thing as survival of a race built in humans, it's more a thing that parents have to make their offspring survive.
Second, this is not any part of the morale.


So you don't think survival instinct has anything to do with morale?
We are back to square one.
What is it based on then?

I might have said it before, but I'll expand it a little bit.
Morale is being created by humans when they are very young. It's a matter of environment and all such things, and from a certain moment there's a slight own interpretation.

Maybe a nice definition for morale: rules about good and evil that have their origin in the conscience.

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Andreas wrote:
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So you don't think survival instinct has anything to do with morale?
We are back to square one.
What is it based on then?

I might have said it before, but I'll expand it a little bit.
Morale is being created by humans when they are very young. It's a matter of environment and all such things, and from a certain moment there's a slight own interpretation.

Maybe a nice definition for morale: rules about good and evil that have their origin in the conscience.

So our morale is learned and taught?
If so then why is it right if we are just taught it?
How can we know what is REALLY good or bad?

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If so then why is it right if we are just taught it?

Ask yourself these questions:
Am I allowed to kill?
Am I allowed to rape?
Am I allowed to steal?

Of course your conscience tells you that these things aren't allowed.

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How can we know what is REALLY good or bad?

Bad = harming others or yourself

Somehow recognising that something is bad is easier than recognising that something is good.

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Andreas wrote:
-Mayhem- wrote:
If so then why is it right if we are just taught it?

Ask yourself these questions:
Am I allowed to kill?
Am I allowed to rape?
Am I allowed to steal?

Of course your conscience tells you that these things aren't allowed.

It is not my conscience.
My conscience works afterwards.
It is morale what makes me think such things are disgusting.

And what if my conscience would tell me to do those things? Would that make them right?
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How can we know what is REALLY good or bad?

Bad = harming others or yourself

Somehow recognising that something is bad is easier than recognising that something is good.

As we already got.
harming is not always wrong and everythig that does not harm anyone is not right.

Why did some cultures think it is ok to sacrifice people or eat them.
Even Abraham in the OT was ready to kill his son in the glory of god and I think that can't be thought of as good.
My morale would say not to kill my son no matter what voice in my head would say so.

Why are we right and other cultures wrong?
If you say neither one is right or wrong then we are in the relative meta-ethics.

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I just had to.
This one is so great :lol:

I have been really busy but I will be back with our discussion in Lets Argue topic soon!

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I truly feel sorry for the one(s) who made those pictures.

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Me too. :roll:

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Me three :|

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So tell me: Why?

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Because , if someone doesn't believe in God, don't have to spoof him

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